H.R. 2159

[gunslinger598]

http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=4879

I'm not seeing much about this on the forums. the more I read about it the more disturbed I become (if that's possible  )

When I read up on the history of some other countries it becomes apparent that this bill is just a stepping stone to complete censorship & do not say anything  the government doesn't like.

Due process? Apparently that to is gone if this gets enacted. I'm not sure it isn't already gone with some provisions in the Patriot act.

I see a lot of opionions and debates on various forums but it seems to me that often some of the most imporant  topics get ignored until it's to late.

This one is sneaking up on us, and if it fails there are several more like it not far behind.

[marlin*man]

They can't enforce the laws they already have. I tried to read the bill and it has a ton of double talk in it. Or I'm too stupid to get it. 
Let's just all go to the scorched earth method of eliminating problems. Then our illustrious African Colonial Leader will have ultimate power with no one left but himself.

[gunslinger598]

From what I understand with the passage of this they can make up the rules aka laws as they go and pick and choose which ones to enforce often with out due process.

Keeping in mind that these gov officials will be unlike any we have ever known whos goal is to undermine the entire structure of the American Republic.

I can recall things in my early teens that I had heard about revoluationary types wanting to go socialist or red. Some of these are the verty same people who who the radicals then. They never gave up their idea and continued to conspire in order to obtain these same goals.

Often timing is everything. I posted this early today, then just a while ago an e mail came in which I'll post part of.

"Dear Fellow Patriots,

I am often asked, "Alexander, since Obama poses a threat to American liberty unmatched in our history, what can I do to help stop his advance?"

Fact is, short of a great insurrection in defense of liberty (which is certainly not out of the realm of possibilities), Patriots need to know that there are some simple, but very effective measures they can take now in defense of liberty.

Among the most important acts you can undertake to help preserve liberty is to educate our fellow countrymen about the current assault on their freedom, and the consequences. The Patriot Post is an excellent instrument for doing just that.

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[Pat/Rick]

Trying to talk to people is like shoveling snow in a blizzard. Give 'em different points of views, different referances of information and you are labeled a racist,crazy, and whatever else the cool aid drinkers can think of. I think that most of the people in this nation have lost themselves among the flock of their fellow sheep.  They do not even have the common sense to make a decision based on different ideas. They only know what the mainstream media tells 'em. Thats what I get for being able to formulate my own opinion I guess. Heck with it, I'm done with  societies idiots.

[gunslinger598]

Ain't that the truth.

It seems that is how the American gov will over throw the people.